Should i kill ashur

Leather Rebel 8. Richard, he thought, had to find purpose in stopping Wernher and thereby saving the Pitt.

He manipulates the player into taking the mission in Pittsburgh to free the slaves, while he personally seeks vengeance and control of the Pittsbugh. The Shelton Delacroix logs are a series of five holotapes that were cut from Fallout 3. Tribal power armor is a unique set of Td power armor found in The Pitt. Thanks to Fallout3Nexus for the a one-stop-shop resource for authors and players.

Deal with the slave, then head inside and confront Wernher. Fallout 3 The hand cart to travel to The Pitt. He will end this conversation by asking you to talk to his wife Sandra, because she'll have more info for you concerning their plans.

This earns a meeting with the Pitt's leader, Lord Ashur, a former Brotherhood soldier left for dead during the Scourge. Perhaps the saddest raider encounter in any of the games, players can find a few Norwegian raiders in Fallout 4.

Wernher has a plan to free the slaves and asks for your help. His quest for more help funds the game's most evil villain who has destroyed towns In the quest for slaves. Werhner is a slave who escapes from The Pitt and travels to the Capital Wasteland in search of someone to help his people in Fallout 3. He sends a distress signal across the Wasteland which is picked up by you. Wernher emotionally manipulates the player and leads them to believe that they serve … Fallout 3 The Pitt Walkthrough.

First, to scour the ruins of Washington, D. A former initiate of the Brotherhood of Steel, he single-handedly revitalized the city following its near-destruction by the Brotherhood. But he does have a plan in action and is building a future for The Pitt. Steel Knuckles 4. Wernher and Midea are liars and just want to take over as well as kidnapping a child from it's caring parents for personal gain is questionable at best and totally wrong at worst, especially when Ashur already plans to share the cure.

Norwegian Raiders Can Be FoundPerhaps the saddest raider encounter in any of the games, players can find a few Norwegian raiders in Fallout 4. I pick the slavers since Ashur's motives are genuine. Fallout 3: The Pitt — Wow, what a bummer. The Pitt. Many of these units are sent to China, and they begin to carve a swath through the Chinese forces.

Ashur can give his people a cure, and although what he is doing isn't the best, the ends will justify the means in this case. You can share your concerns with him like you did with Midea, but it won't change anything.

His ways are rather, extreme. Ashur — leader of the. It depends on your perspective of which is the better ending, the slaves being free but almost guareented of not being able to find a cure or Ashur and the raiders controling them and the possibility of the cure being found. Werhner's intentions must also be considered, is he truly in it to free the slaves or only control the Pitt.

Will the slaves survive without the Raiders to guard them against trogs, wildmen, an other raiders and slavers. Is Ashur's intentions true if he lets the Raiders enslave and force the slaves to fight and be treated so increbidly poorly?

It is a bit of a morally grey area, but I chose to side with Ashur. He is ex-brotherhood, and if you look in his safe, he really does intend to free the slaves and give out the cure, which is more that I can say for that tool Werhner he treats you like crap one you've served his purposes, and he seems to more interested in ruling that the slaves welfare.

Though more slaves will die in the short run, in the long run a functioning city will be rebuilt with a working steel mill. Also it's not jut that Werhner treats you like crap, his lab is clearly thrown together and he has no background in science, so there's a good chance he'll kill the baby and not find a cure at, and a lot of people will have died for jack squat.

If you concerned about loot, don't be, you can get Ashur's power armor by reverse pickpocketing along with the other unique items , plus the vendors in downtown stay alive not sure if Slaves take their place if you side with Werhner. Honestly I'd consider this the "good" route, even though pretty much everyone other than Ashur will treat you like crap, it's what's best, sometimes that's what being a hero comes down to.

With the Black Widow perk it is possible to get a few stimpaks or ammunition from him as well. Leave Wernher's hideout and go to the underground entrance located at the opposite side of the tracks from the supply plant.

Enter via a manhole at the very end of the train tracks, similar to the one in Paradise Falls. Once inside there are around two dozen trogs to fight, along with a Protectron which can be activated to help. Head to a terminal where the floodlights can be shut off, then exit through the door leading to Haven 's courtyard.

Here Lord Ashur and Sandra will confront the Lone Wanderer if they survived their initial encounters with the player character and will quickly become hostile and attack. Even if the player character remains hidden the dialogue will be triggered. One can kill Ashur and loot his body he drops his unique power armor as well as the key to the Pitt underground or leave him to his fate: if the fight with Ashur is avoided, a horde of trogs will swarm the Haven courtyard and engage Ashur and any of his surviving Pitt raiders in combat.

One can steal the baby without harming Sandra, kill the raiders, talk to Wernher and just refuse to go along with the second part of his plan and decide to return the baby to Ashur. A Speech or Black Widow check must be passed, otherwise Wernher will have to be killed. Ashur is upset, but ultimately accepts what happened. The Wanderer will have the option to ask him to free the slaves but there is no way to get him to agree.

Sandra, however, will not forgive the player character for kidnapping her daughter but will still accept and pay for toys while always having some snarky comments. If one decides to kill Ashur and return to Midea's house, they will find Wernher outside. He tells them that he will be reorganizing the city and that word should be spread out of the Pitt in order to get more workers down in the Mill.

He also advises that the Wanderer has earned their share of the ammo press and that they can gather steel ingots and give them to the foreman in exchange for gear a continuation of the Mill Worker quest. By talking to Midea, the quest to collect and return teddy bears to her is given.

Haven, however, will be locked so any loot left inside will be inaccessible. The raider vendors Friday and Harris will also be dead, killed by the ex-slaves. Their keys can be found on their bodies to loot their store inventories. Since Ashur is dead, The Lone Wanderer can declare themselves the new leader of the Pitt depending on the dialogue choices made. If they do, Wernher will begin to call the player character "boss.

To ensure the Lone Wanderer becomes the new leader, select the dialogue option " That leaves me as the new Lord of The Pitt. Fallout Wiki. Fallout Wiki Explore.

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Re: The Pitt, which side do you pick? Wernher and Midea are liars and just want to take over as well as kidnapping a child from it's caring parents for personal gain is questionable at best and totally wrong at worst, especially when Ashur already plans to share the cure. Wernher and Midea aren't doctors or scientist. They want the kid for their own selfish reasons. As much as I hate slavers, Ashur and Sandra by all accounts seem to be loving parents and want to develop the cure for everyone.

My personal headcanon is that my Lone Courier will threaten Ashur that if he doesn't provide on the cure, I'll kill him and all his men and set the slaves free. While they are unfortunately slavers, Ashur is trying to find a cure, and he does legitimately offer up a way to leave, through the Hole.

Sure, you're more likely to die in combat, but the fact that you get freed shows that it is a real way to escape slavery. On the flipside, Wernher and Midea just want to take over, and Wernher pulled a full deception with not telling that the cure was in fact a baby, and in fact comments on that fact and his deception because he figured if you knew, you wouldn't help. In siding with them, I feel that the slaves have no chance, as opposed to very little chance with Ashur.

There's no scientists to work on a cure with Wernher, and my head-canon would be that I could see him 'recruiting' a scientist the same way he 'recruited' us to do his dirty work. So, much as I hated siding with Ashur and his slavers especially after I took a Fat Man to Paradise Falls and used up all of my mini-nukes There's a chance to get free by combat, there's a chance he might find a cure, and there's a chance he might re-ignite the forge of industry, and do a little good for the wasteland in the end.

And a little chance is far better than no chance at all. However, considering that the slavery operation in the Pitt is causing massive human suffering and deaths on a large scale all around the place up to and including the Capital Wasteland hundreds of miles away, and all of this is really done mainly for the personal benefit of a slaver warlord Ashur and his gang of raiders, my Lone Wanderer usually ends up siding with the slaves and killing all of the hostile slavers and raiders..

IMHO if civilization is going to be rebuilt ever, this will not happen with all of these raiders and slavers running around, they need to be dealt with swiftly and decisively. There are no extra resources available to take care of a large violent prisoner population for rehabilitation, and the raiders usually do not surrender anyhow, so the only valid solution is to keep on killing all of the slavers and raiders untill they stop raiding and slaving in the region.

The cure is really just a secondary priority here, the orphan baby needs a new home so Midea gets to be the foster mom. Workers could be paid with production shares and trade caravans would bring in supplies in exchange for the steel products. Post by Laclongquan » Thu May 27, pm What the hell? It's very obvious that we are going with the slaves. I know you dont care for slaves but should anyone have to eat Trog slop?

This is a soulful question here. Slave revolt is a thing. Stand on the side of raiders and you stave that off for maybe another month. Who the hell would want to work their ass off to eat slop made of trogs? So standing on raider is a futile thing. I bet they never had slop once. Midea I have no opinion about but that man is, I dont know, typical Wasteland strongman chief.

The point is, Ashur sit on the throne made of blood and lives of slaves so down he go.